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Question from Daniel: Thanks again for all your helpful videos! Been learning a lot with you guys on YouTube! Got a quick question for you: What is this screen symptom called? Vertical fold over? A vertical sync issue?

– Here’s what the picture looks like when connected to PC: https://youtu.be/pYXd0VgdApQ
– Same issue connected to JAMMA: https://youtu.be/1uGRs-uuLzg
– Same issue with no video input connected and flyback screen brightness turned up: https://youtu.be/Mzaen2wGTCc

This happened immediately after changing the HOT, voltage regulator, and B+ filter cap. Afterwards I put all of those original pieces back in but it was still doing that. Thanks, Daniel

 

Here is a brief summary of this cabinets history from the time I got it until now, if interested:

1. When I originally got the cabinet the flyback was probably blown. CRT was basically dead. Very dim screen. Replaced flyback, did cap kit, swapped tube with a TV tube. Used the TV yoke because the readings were acceptable and very near the original. Arcade game looked brand new again. Great colors. Needed a little degaussing but picture was perfect after degauss.

2. After that, once in a while screen would do a quick 1 or 2 second flash at random points while playing it. This usually seemed to happen more often during points of a game that had a lot of action going on. Sometimes immediately following the flash the screen seemed to resize itself a little smaller and maybe even a little darker than it was before, and sometimes it would start to wave like a water effect at this point…then after maybe 30 seconds it would flash and go back to a normal looking screen again. Blowing a floor fan into the cabinet seemed to alleviate this considerably, but I’m not sure if that was true or just coincidence.

3. I decided to change out the HOT, voltage regulator, and B+ filter cap to see if it would stop the problem. Instead I ended up with this after putting those in.

4. None of the pots will fix this. Not even the 50/60 pot

5. I tried putting the original old HOT, voltage regulator, and B+ filter cap back in but that didn’t fix it. So I put the new HOT & voltage regulator BACK IN the chassis again and that’s how its set up now. The old B+ filter cap is still in the chassis, I did not put the new one back in again.

6. B+ reading was 161.9 on one terminal of the 180ohm resistor and 120.2 on the other terminal of that same resistor. That’s with the new voltage regulator installed (and yes, its a 30130). With the OLD original 30130 regulator, the B+ measured 161.3 on one side and 107.3 on the other side.

7. Q9 tested OK both forwards and backwards.

8. Tested IC3 – I got 22.5 volts. (IC3, pin 6, monitor turned on, black lead to ground, red lead to pin 6.

9. Changed out the vertical IC 3 with a new one (same model # as original).

10. Checked continuity on all the joints of the board. Reflowed some old joints.

11. I did another cap kit with better quality capacitors.

12. Checked the ohm’s on the yokes green & yellow wires. Readings were OK.

No luck so far

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Jonathan Leung Jonathan Leung Staff December 1, 2016
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Response from Jonathan: Daniel,

Yes, it does look like you are experiencing some vertical fold over. Usually a cap kit will solve this issue but considering you’ve already installed 2 of them on this particular monitor, the caps should be good. At this point, you might try adjusting the VR9 pot (also called the 50/60 hz trim pot) to see if it helps the issue. If the picture doesn’t change it could mean that the pot is bad (or open) and needs to be replaced. Also, be sure to check diode D25 and resistor R80. If either one of these parts is bad, it can cause problems such as this.

Hope that helps. Thank you for your question and good luck with your repair.

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